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  1. John S.
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    Hello,

    I just installed Sitefinity 3 and have a few questions.

    1. I am making an assumption that equivalent processes/features will be available in Sitefinity 3 that are available in 2.x even though they may be named different or work a bit different. If this assumption is not valid please let me know what features will not be available
    2. How does one create a page template and is this the equivalent of Layouts in Sitefinity 1.x, 2.x?
    3. How does one add their own user controls?
    4. How does one add an Anonymous user?

    Thanks,
    John

  2. Bogdana Ivanova
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    Hello John,

    1. I am making an assumption that equivalent processes/features will be available in Sitefinity 3 that are available in 2.x even though they may be named different or work a bit different. If this assumption is not valid please let me know what features will not be available - Sitefinity 3.0 has completely new architecture. It adopts many features from .NET 2.0, offers new layout rendering, i.e. it will not use tables any more, but DIVs and CSS instead. We tried to keep and improve as many features as possible from old Sitefinity versions and already added some new ones. Also we improved the Sitefinity user interface significantly.
    2. How does one create a page template and is this the equivalent of Layouts in Sitefinity 1.x, 2.x? - No. Sitefinity 3.0 adopts Master pages technology which is .NET 2.0 dependant. For more information, please visit this link: http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/06/ASPNET20MasterPages/
    3. How does one add their own user controls? - Currently, you can add a user control in the Web.config file. Please see the following example:

    <toolboxControls>
    <add name="TestAscx" section="User Controls" url="~/TestControls/ReqUrl.ascx" description="User Contorl (.ascx file) test."/>
    </toolboxControls>

    In beta version of Sitefinity you will be able to upload user controls through the control toolbox.

    1. How does one add an Anonymous user? - The user mangement in Sitefinity 3.0 is a little bit different from the previous Sitefinity versions. There are no Public and CMS users any more. There are only CMS users. If you need to create an Anonymous user you have to create a role with the relevant permissions and then assign the user to this role. Permission check will be added to the beta version of Sitefinity.

    Kind regards,
    Bogdana Ivanova
    the telerik team

  3. John S.
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    Hello,

    In regards to the answer to question #2 regarding page templates; does this mean the ability to define page templates will only be available within Visual Studio and not Sitefinity?

    Thanks,
    John
  4. Rebecca
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    Hello John,

    This is only true for the current moment. In the upcoming versions you will be able to design page templates (master pages) outside Sitefinity, in any editor that is convenient for you. We have scheduled such a designer but we cannot give you an exact timeframe as to when it will be officially available. Initially, there will be a collection of ready-made templates in Sitefinity.

    Regards,
    Rebecca
    the telerik team
  5. John S.
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    Hello,

    Thanks for the response.

    I think it is very important to include this functionality within Sitefinity. One of the main attractions of the current Sitefinity program is the ability for users to define their own layouts without having access to or know how to use more complicated programming tools.

    Best regards,
    John
  6. Kevin Pipher
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    I Would also agree with John's comment above. I think end users will find it a drawback to not be able to design their own templates.

    I am however very happy that master pages have been adopted, as it will allow developers like myself more finely tuned control over the templates.

    A mix of both, as was discussed for the future, will be valuable too both dev and user teams.
  7. Bogdana Ivanova
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    Hello guys,

    You are right that this feature will be very handy to end users and developers alike. It will available for the beta version of Sitefinity v3 which is planned for early next month.

    Do not hesitate to share any other ideas you may have.
     

    Regards,
    Bogdana Ivanova
    the telerik team
  8. Rebecca
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    Hello,

    Here are a few more details about designing page templates in the upcoming versions of Sitefinity.

    Master pages enable developers to define common areas that every page will share, like the number of cells, headers, footers, navigation and so on. They are developed in Visual Studio and for the time being you will not be able to edit them within Sitefinity, that is why we will offer a collection of ready-made master pages in Sitefinity. In the future, we will provide a designer for master pages in Sitefinity.

    Templates define the structural appearance of the controls within the placeholders on a page.The template is based on the Master page markup together with controls added to its placeholders. Templates logically relate Master pages to Web pages.
    When uploading a Master page, Sitefinity actually creates an empty Template that can be later multiplied and modified. A Template is referencing a Master page and actually defines how the controls on a given Page are organized, i.e. what controls are present and the way they are arranged. A Template can be inherited by one or many Web pages. Unlike Master pages, Templates can be modified  within Sitefinity as long as they are added to the Templates Kit first. You can edit the number and type of controls and the appearance (themes, skins, CSS) but you cannot change the structure (number of cells), merge or split cells.

    The edit templates functionality will be available in Sitefinity 3.0 beta version.

    All the best,
    the Sitefinity team
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