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  1. Jason Irving
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    Hi,

    I seems like the community edition was removed from the site. It is still available through the MS Web Platform Installer.

    Has it been discontinued?
  2. Gabe Sumner
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    Hi Jason,

    Has [Community Edition] been discontinued?

    Kind of…    We’re transitioning in that direction.  

    Everyone who has already downloaded a community edition will still be able to do so from their account.  In addition, we will be able to manually activate community edition licenses on demand.  Lastly, existing Sitefinity Community Edition 3.x web sites will continue to run indefinitely.

    Why is Community Edition being discontinued?

    Sitefinity 4.0 (and the features it will include) are not intended or appropriate for small/hobby projects.  These are the projects addressed with Sitefinity 3.x Community Edition.  Our product roadmap was being complicated by trying to simultaneously address large projects...as well as hobby projects.

    This being said, there isn't a hard off switch and we want to do the right thing for Community Edition projects.  We'll work case by case to help.  If you have concerns, feel free to submit a ticket or contact me -> sumner@telerik.com.

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  3. Shawn Krivjansky
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    So, how is the 3.7 SP2 "trial" different than the "Community Edition" ?
    Are they the same thing?
    If they aren't, how would somebody obtain the old "Community Edition"?

    If the "Community Edition" IS being completely discontinued (in the very near future), is the plan to NOT have a true free "hobby" edition any longer??
  4. Gabe Sumner
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    > So, how is the 3.7 SP2 "trial" different than the "Community Edition" ?

    The trial is the full version of Sitefinity but, if I recall, it displays random "this is a trial" messages if run on a non-local domain.

    > If they aren't, how would somebody obtain the old "Community Edition"?

    I believe existing accounts can still access the Community Edition.  New accounts will no longer have this option.  In some cases we might make the old Community Edition available to new customers on a private/limited basis. 

    > If the "Community Edition" IS being completely discontinued (in the very near future), is the plan to NOT have a true free "hobby" edition any longer?

    Correct, that is the eventual plan.

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  5. Steve
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    That's a little unfortunate

    What about a hobby price for 4.0?  So full 4.0 use with no support for a low price perhaps?

    I like to make SF sites for friends or other small projects (personal site too)....but I can't pay $900 for a personal site, the wife would KILL me :)
  6. Phill Hodgkinson
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    This is really sad news and I fear it will be the demise of Sitefinity, especially for me! I have yet to deploy a community edition site so why do I care if it's disappearing? Because based on what you're saying (and I'm reading a bit between the lines) I worry that the 4.0 price tag is going to go up dramatically. I love SF and have been keen to see what's in store for 4.0. One of the things that makes SF so great is the price point and features and value for the $ spent. I'm a developer who targets clients who need a middle tier CMS, and if SF (specifically v. 4) is not suitable for small sites than it is a sad day.

    A few years back Telligent took over the open source project  "asp.net forums" and their first couple versions were polished improvements over the open source version. The product is now Community Server, something that has a serious price tag, beyond the budgets of most of the people and clients who supported the company and product in the early days.

    I truly fear this may be a path Telerik is on with Sitefinity by axing the Community Edition. I'm not jumping ship right now but I'm definitely going to go back to investingating some open source solutions again so I'm prepared for what may come.

    Please reconsider if you can, even if the delivery of a community edition is not at the same time as the full version.
    Regards,
    Phill
  7. paxer
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    Very sad news... I was thinking to start using Sitefinity like a development platform for all of my feature projects. But not all of them have a budjet for commercial version. Unfortunately in this situation i would prefer to use  Kentico CMS like dev platform, as it have limited Free version but absolutely enough for small projects.
  8. Anton Hristov
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    Everyone who has Sitefinity Community Edition 3x in their accounts can enjoy using it for as many future projects as they deem it fit for. The Community Edition 3.7x will always remain in your accounts. Also, if you have downloaded the Community Edition from any other source, you can continue using it indefinitely.
     
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  9. Steve
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    What about like $99 version of 4.0 for personal use? :)
  10. Phill Hodgkinson
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    Anton, unfortunately that's not an option for many. Who wants to develop for 4.0 (which I understand is quite the change) and then also have to develop and maintain 3.7 for smaller sites/clients. Also, my point is more to the fact that this is obviously a sign that Telerik is making changes that aren't small site/company friendly. It's totally understandable if you have to change your model and pricing but you need to keep your users informed. To just remove the community edition with no notice, if very poor form and now my trust level has just dropped. Maybe without notice you'll increase the price from $800 to $2000 and the project I'm currently working on will have to be moved to a different CMS.

    So yes a little part of it is about "where can I get community edition now" but the bigger picture and bigger concern (for me) is that you've made a move that makes me not trust you and the future of Sitefinity which is something I don't like. People are working with clients, possibly delaying launches of sites/projects in anticipation of version 4 (even a community edition version of 4) but now, without notice or warning they're out of luck. (if there was a news release or similar that there would no longer be a community edition, I definitely missed it).

    Just my 2 cents (ok, 2 more on top of my previous 2 cents)...
    Phill
  11. Trey
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    Phil hit the nail on the head for my situation. The first I saw of this was a random tweet, and (not to be too dramatic) it felt like I'd been punched in the gut. I've been pushing hard at my company to standardize around Sitefinity, and part of the reason was that there was a free version for those sites with small budgets that we have to do for various political reasons. I understand that 3.7 Community is not going to stop working, and we could use it for these small sites, but we don't have the resources here to develop for two drastically different versions of Sitefinity at once.

    The bigger issue, as Phil said, is one of trust. If there was any notification of this, I certainly missed it. I'm now put into the situation of having to go in front of my boss and say that the Community Edition option is going away, and I found out about it from a random tweeter. There's no news posting about it, no notice from the more "official" Twitter feeds, no blog posts, nothing but this forum post and a sudden absence of any mention of Community Edition on the site. That's going to look really bad in his eyes, and it looks bad in my eyes. What else is going to change with no notice? I'm now extremely wary of what is coming next. The current site I'm building will go forward and launch, but this may be a developmental dead end. You have your reasons for discontinuing the product, and it's completely your prerogative to do so, but the way this has been handled has made me stop and think about our future direction.
  12. MB
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    I’m certainly not surprised or concerned that Telerik have decided to stop giving the product and support away.

    I know plenty of people who have elected to use the community version for a commercial deploy, and forsake the few feature differences... expecting Telerik to provide support for nothing, via the forums.

    Perhaps an expanded price/feature matrix would provide the compromise between an affordable entry point, and Telerik getting a return for their work and support.

    You know the sort of thing, Personal, Professional, Enterprise versions... with price increases commensurate with the added features and support provided.

  13. bemara57
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    The concerns here are totally valid.

    I want to get one thing straight tho, current 3.7 Community Editions will work indefinitely.. but will I still be able to install 3.7 Community Editions in the future? Also, will I be able to upgrade these 3.7 installs to the paid version in the future as well?


    Telerik does not loose anything by "giving away" the community edition. They have gained thousands of free testers, contributions, feedback, and word-of-mouth back from the COMMUNITY. If you stop the community edition, this will sufficate the community until it dies completely. You cannot put a pricetag on a community.

  14. MB
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    Communities and feedback are all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I suspect that sales of the "standard" version are needed to cover the expense of supporting a "free" version.

     

    IMHO, the free, or so-called "hobby", version of Sitefinity is quite simply too feature-rich for its own good, and in my experience, most SMBs will happily do without versioning, flow-control, and the few other differences, leaving little incentive for them to "upgrade" at any point.

     

    I've built a number of sites for SMBs, based on the approach of using the "community" version to get a foot-hold, and upgrading them to the "standard" version once they are comfortable with the product... and to date, not one of them has felt the need or desire to pay for the upgrade... they are all perfectly happy to continue using the free version.

     

    It would perhaps be a different matter if there were more significant limitations on the free version, like no support for compiled dlls as controls, or no support for custom modules, or some other compelling reasons for SMB users to upgrade, but as it stands, the free version is absolutely good enough to support commercial sites for an awful lot of SMB installations.

     

    Personally, I think that a quality product, with good documentation and support, at a fair price, will flourish in this market, that is full of half-baked and poorly supported products, particularly if there is a price/feature matrix that provides solid reasons for people to upgrade between versions.

     

    I can still see a place for a free, or "Express", version in such a marketing plan, but only if it were significantly stripped down so that SMBs would not be so comfortable using it to run a commercial site.

  15. Gabe Sumner
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    Sorry I've been quiet on this thread.  I was in Dallas this past weekend helping with a charity event.

    Some additional communication on this topic will be sent soon...  In the meantime, everyone who has used the Community Edition in the past still has it available in their accounts. 

    Beyond that, we were planning to use our regular communications (like the monthly Sitefinity newsletters and Sitefinity news/forums updates) for this announcement and details.  The coordination between these communications and web site updates perhaps didn't come together in the correct order.

    Sorry for the confusion.   More soon...

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  16. Jason Irving
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    Well, I was hoping that this might the open source CMS in .NET. I've been looking for. I've tried them all in .NET and they are still a far cry from the mature PHP portal systems.

    Oh well back to the PHP world. At least MS will be supporting PHP in Visual Studio as a native language in 2010 and improved FastCGI support in IIS7. If everything goes to plan, maybe this wont be an issue.
  17. Anthony
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    Gabe,

    Respectfully, that's a day late and a dollar short.

    I have projects in the pipeline, at various stages of completion, some of which would definitely have been upgraded to a full version.

    Now, I have to go to clients and explain that I have to start again and find another CMS. Very unprofessional.

    Sincerely,
    Anthony Grace.


  18. Vassil
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    Hi,

    It seems most of the discussion revolves around two points:
    1.    Telerik’s transparency and communication surrounding the removal of the Free Community version and
    2.    Sitefinity’s future – will it have a free version and how much will the paid version(s) cost

    Before I talk in greater detail about the above points, I would like to start with some background why we decided to discontinue the Community Edition.

    Our original idea was to offer a free version to hobbyists so they could set up their blog, personal website, local community website, their kid’s baseball site and so on. People were happy and we were happy because the product was put to good use. Then people started pleading that we allow them to build small websites for their business as they couldn’t afford a paid CMS. We said, OK, let’s do it and we allowed commercial use as well. As we didn’t want to be cheap on the folks using the Community Edition, we did not offer them a crippled version – we offered them a real CMS.

    What happened in the last couple of years since we first introduced the Community Version was that people started using it for purposes other than the ones listed above – they were not using it for their company/personal websites. Rather, they were using it to build company/personal sites for others and were making a business on top of a free product. Some people did not even bother to comply with the logo requirement and linking back. This, however, did not prevent them from being unhappy that we were not solving their challenges within a day and providing solutions to their forum posts. What was supposed to be “community support” became Telerik support through a “community channel”. Needless to say, that had its price tag too. It was not free – it was just our conscious decision not to let anyone down as we have never done it. But it forced us to think how long it can go on like this.

    Perhaps we are the ones to blame as we had put too many features in the CE, and we did not explicitly say in the EULA that it’s OK to use SF CE for commercial purposes only to build a website for your company, not to build sites for other people. Now, I can’t blame the people that did it – nothing wrong if they didn’t break any license agreement. But the truth of the matter is that many people that could pay and thus support the evolution of the product decided that the free version is good enough and didn’t go for the Standard Edition which, even at the price of $899, is extremely inexpensive. SO inexpensive, that some people discriminate the quality of the product because of the price. Those people did what’s best for their business and decided to maximize their profit. Likewise, Telerik needs to do what’s best for our business in order to ensure the progression of the project and to make sure that all companies that did invest money in SF are in a good position.

    To ensure that Sitefinity doesn’t stagnate, we wanted to take some measures and the trimming of the Community Edition is a major one of them. Some of you mentioned that we are not losing anything from giving away Sitefinity – that’s true. But we also are not making anything and we cannot sustain the team without generating revenue. The community goodwill is very important and we are very appreciative of it but goodwill doesn’t pay the bills. It needs to be monetized for it to work for both parties – some companies fail because they are afraid to stop offering something that’s free and on which they are losing money. Others fail because they become greedy and decide that they want to rip off their customers. We don’t want to do either – we are not greedy but we want to find a reasonable intersection between what we are offering as a product and what we are charging for it. The fact that we were offering a CMS that can compete feature-wise and has better scalability than 4-5 digit CMSs means that things were a bit unfairly skewed from our standpoint.

    So how could we solve some of the challenges? One possibility was to trim down the features offered in the Community Edition. This had two problems. First, it would have meant that you would get an “upgrade” with less features.  This doesn’t make a lot of sense. It defeats the whole purpose of continuity and you would’ve been just as well off as you are now – to use the SF CE 3.7 Edition as long as you wish. The second problem was that the trimming down of features would have required development work and this is not an option when we are hard at work towards the 4.0 release and every minute matters. So, we had two other options – leave everything as is or drop the CE now. The former, because of the reasons outlined above, was not really an option. So we decided that the least evil is to discontinue CE for new customers and win some time to see what we can do for 4.0 customers who are looking for an affordable CMS for smaller projects. I want to stress one thing – no one who is using SF CE is at any risk. The product will continue to live, you will be able to build new sites on it, it will be available through the Web Platform Installer. So it’s a bit unfair to say that we stopped the free version when you have a perpetual license and you can get a hold of it through other channels. It is fair to say though that we do not have definite plans to offer a free version for Sitefinity 4.0 and onwards.

    So what happened to the communication and why didn’t we announce it properly? The short story – it broke. Our team is growing, responsibilities are shifted among people and we did not play this one properly. The sequence of events did not happen in the right order. We also underestimated the effect for existing customers who could continue using the version without any problems. Those of you who have worked long enough with Telerik know that we treat customers fairly. One of our greatest prides is the level of transparency with customers. We have always been very open and straightforward in our communication. With any change we’ve made to pricing and licensing, we have always taken care of customers. With the release of 4.0, we will make no exception. You also know that we have made mistakes and we have fixed them and we are open to reconsider our position as long as customers take into account the problems we are trying to solve. So, consider this as a communication blunder on our behalf and please accept our apologies.

    This brings us to what’s ahead of Sitefinity. While we are not in complete agreement internally what we can offer to customers looking for an affordable solution for a small website, we will definitely consider your input for 4.0. One thing that would help us is to frame what a small website is and what kind of features are required. If we can agree on those and the difference of opinion is not in terms of magnitude, I am sure that we can come up with a good proposition. You know what our challenges are, so you can help us solve them.

    With regards to pricing – yes, it will go up, but so will the value of the product. The productivity you will get will outweigh the increase in cost. It will be announced much in advance. And, unlike most of the CMS vendors, we will be open about our licensing and pricing. Perhaps the price increase will lead to the loss of some customers, but that’s life – you cannot please everyone. If you try to please everyone, you please none. In any case, we don’t intend to go the way of other vendors – from something that costs $1,000 to something that costs more than $100,000. The new business model will allow those of you who invested into learning Sitefinity over the past years to expand your business by collaborating with Telerik.

    I hope all of this makes sense and sheds more light as to why things happened and why they happened the way they did.

    Vassil Terziev
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  19. Steve
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    Vassil,
      Can you clarify the price increase...?

    Existing subscribers shouldn't have to pay more to get the initail 4.0 release, correct?  We'd just have to pay a higher renewal price?  I've got a support ticket or two to that effect, and we literally just renewed every telerik subscription (I mean literally every product you make) last week...

    Also, I hope Gabe wasn't the one getting in trouble for posting the answer here first :)  He does a great job for the community!

    Thanks,
    Steve
  20. Anthony
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    Ditto on Gabe's contributions to the community - whenever I'm in trouble, I Google his name with Sitefinity! ;-)
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    Steve,

    We value the loyalty of our customers and with any changes we have done and may introduce in the future, we strive to make the transition as painless as possible for all existing Telerik customers.

    All customers with a Standard Edition license with active subscription will receive the Sitefinity 4.0 Standard Edition at no additional cost as part of their subscription. We stick to the value offering of our license subscritpions - they entitle customers to free access to major and minor product upgrades as well as technical support.

    If a subscription is expired, it is renewable at the current cost of $269 and will grant the 4.0 Standard Edition at no extra expense. If we increase the cost of the 4.0 Sitefinity Standard Edition License, this will be partially compensated by a lower subscription renewal rate. As Vassil pointed out, we plan on keeping the cost/value ratio of Sitefinity as high as it is.

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  22. Gabe Sumner
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    Steve & Anthony,

    I appreciate the kind words on my behalf, but please don't fear for my sake.  I'm definitely not in trouble.  :)

    Even apart from this topic, Telerik doesn't really have that type of internal atmosphere.  We have high internal standards, but mistakes are viewed as learning opportunities.  I know this sounds like high-minded corporate mission statement babble that no one internally regards, but Telerik really does seem to live it.  As long as people are trying, learning & growing, there are plenty of opportunities.

    After some of my past jobs, this environment is refreshing...

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  23. Phill Hodgkinson
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    Hi Vassil,
    I'm sure my comments have stirred the pot a little bit. I would like to say that I really appreciate you taking the time to formulate you response and I totally understand where you're coming from. In the end if you guys can't stay in business then nobody wins. As I said, I have yet to deploy a community based site and probably never will except maybe if I ever get around to redoing our corporate site. Otherwise I will continue to develop client sites and purchase the standard edition. 
    My concern with this type of thing is always around the unannounced disappearance of a product (be it free or pay to use) as trust is a huge element of why developers choose a product. I can't say enough good things about the technical support Telerik provides, especially the support they provide for free in the forums instead of always forcing users to go to a ticket. This is remarkably generous and I hope the new model allows you to continue this type of openness and support.
    Anyway, I just wanted to say that your in depth email and explanation are appreciated and I look forward to 4.0 and to paying for it, as long as the increase is still in the budget of my target market!

    Regards,
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    Thanks Phill,

    I am glad that I could contribute to the discussion and I apologize once again if we have sent the wrong message to the community. As Gabe put it - it's another learning lesson for us.

    Best,
    Vassil
  25. Cormac
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    I think the concerns have started to be addressed in the thread above. I dont think anyone minds paying for such a good product. The issue is the target markets. There are two for us. Small and start up business, and established small to medium business. As development companies we are not too worred about hobbyists, but we are concerned with small or start up companies with a very tight budget.

    I think all of us would pay for a simpler stripped down version up to about $250 to serve these companies, so that we don't have to use a product outside Telerik. 
    We can then serve the more established companies with a superior product for slightly more (maybe 1250 dollar price point).

    It really is important to provide the two price points:
    It allows us to develop solely in sitefinity for all clients. Keeping our expertise, support and solution levels high.
    It allows us to service all clients with confidence in the future of the product.

    Thats my two cents. And yes a big thanks to Gabe for all his work!
  26. Jaime Weise
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    Hi there,

    Firstly, what an awsome job you have been doing. There is no other cms like Sitefinity that we have come accross to date.

    Disappointed Community User
    We have been using the community edition to sell websites for all of my customers to date. We fall into the category of costly users that don't provide for financial support for the success of sitefinity thus far as we are a start up. This  being said, We fully intend and are excited to sell licenses for this product in order to become an affilate. We are currently working on two websites that have written standard edition licenses into the contracts. These will be deployed in the next two months. We also intend to rebuild our own website using sitefinity which will be our third license. This news is a big downer for us since we see how powerful this product is and want as many people in the world to adopt it. we honestly believe that path for new users to get on board sitefinity is going to be shot down in cold blood without the community edition.

    Set to lose its mojo
    This is heartbreaking because we have aspirations to build pluggable modules for sitefinity that nolonger seem appealing at all. You are taking away the possibility for a set of developers to provide a multitude of free support and addins to sitefinity. This is a core feature of any world class cms in the world today that is being crippled. The bigger problem is now this: How does sitefinity let free users benifit from free and paid plugins and still have an upgrade that is appealing for enterprise users? If this can be solved then you have a winner.

    You have almost got it right
    You said you don't want to release a version that has less features than the original which would be a downgrade. Yet, this is exactly what you need to do. Existing users should still be granted usage for sitefinity 3.7 to solve continued faith in your core users. This would be an effective strategy and here is the reason why. Sitefinity 4.0 will be great ( I saw the video released in december that was posted erroneously for a day, "Love it!" ) and sell it self.
    How about cut out the drag and drop designer functionality and a few of the other nifty additions including most of the modules aside from the blog.

    What drives the beast?
    Why does a dotnetnuke or a wordpress do so well? It isn't the forum or community support, or flexibility,  that is for sure. Free, Free, Free, Addins, Addins, and more Addins. Here are two mamoth systems that both absolutely !@#$ balls but destroy sitefinity in numbers I presume. But look at what they are doing right and apply it to the awsomeness of sitefinity and there will be no competition left standing.

    Jaime


  27. Anton Hristov
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    Hi Jaime,

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us! We are happy to hear that you are in the process of becoming a Sitefinity Partner. Looking forward to working with you.

    I am sorry to hear that we have disappointed you by discontinuing the Community Edition of Sitefinity. This was a tough decision to make on our side, but it was also a necessary one for ensuring the future of the product.

    In regard to your comment about Sitefinity and its community mojo, the new Sitefinity 4.0 architecture and APIs will empower developers to build a multitude of powerful pluggable modules and plug-ins for Sitefinity in a much faster and even easier way than it is currently possible with Sitefinity 3.7. The developers productivity with Sitefinity 4.0 will be unmatched by any other CMS product on the Market. We have also launched a Marketplace where Sitefinity developers can offer for free or paid download their custom developed Sitefinity components and share them with the rest of the community. The number of components available at the Marketplace has already reached 70+ and it is rapidly growing. We expect this number to grow even faster following the release of Sitefinity 4.0. We also have great plans about improving the Marketplace, which may turn out to become a valuable business opportunity for just about any developer out there who’s familiar with Sitefinity. 

    We are always willing to listen to our community, reconsider our position, and work together towards solving the problems we are facing therefore, I encourage everyone not to spare us their feedback and ideas.

    Kind regards,
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    Will there be a "developer" edition of 4.0? Generally, if I am to work on a project for a client, all my work will be done on localhost IIS, and thus, will provide a stable environment for me to produce a solid example of what can be accomplished with the system.

    As I am new to Sitefinity, I have started development of several sites of Sitefinity using the community edition, and if all goes well, will eventually upgrade these to standard, as the budget permits. I find it a bit unfortunate that community edition is going away for start-ups that want something solid to run on their back-ends. I think its more of a problem with .NET in general, because there are a multitude of Open Source CMS systems that provide similar features, or even further, have tons of available plugins that can extend each system for free, developed by community members using free versions of the software.

    I understand the need for commercial sales, every company has a cost, and must meet these requirements to stay afloat. Just remember, you are competing with a large open source community, just as Microsoft is, and there are some things you really should consider offering for free. I know plenty of people who started working with .NET because there are free express editions available, and these express editions were put out to compete with Open Source competitors. There are gives and takes for giving away product in a community edition.

    Altogether, when I found Sitefinity, I was excited to finally see a .NET product that served the community, and had some level of support to answer customer questions. I moved to .NET from Open Source, because that's what my college teaches. I enjoy some aspects of it, but I truly miss the level of interaction with the community, and the countless number of freely available add-ons to hundreds of different CMS systems. I was hoping this project would be different from other .NET projects I've seen, but as it now stands, the community will parish for this project as I have seen for other projects, by going from offering, to limiting community input.

    I wish you luck with your new plan, as I know there is a lot at stake.
  29. Jaime Weise
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    Numbers are my concern
    I am just discouraged because of the possible numbers of users being limited. Without a free edition I can't imagine enough people will gain interest to make developments quite worth the effort. I am however interested in the new module framework you seem to be eluding to.


  30. Michael Josiah
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    I am pretty gutted that the community addition for 4.0 is being shelved but alas I understand the reason. However I really do like the idea of different prices for different versions. I would be very happy to pay $250 for a cut down version of sitefinity 4.0 and for my bigger customers pay $1,250. I am a small outfit and a loyal Telerik fan, so I want to stick with Telerik where possible. My small customers will faint if I charged them $1,250 + my dev fees on top. But if I charged them $250 for a usuable CMS but a trusted company then they would be happy to pay. My corporate customers would expect their CMS to cost over $1,000 so they would be happy to pay that. So basically even though 4.0 will not have a community addition I employ you to consider a cut down version for a much lower fee.

    Thanks
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