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File Manager Document Management?

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  1. GP
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    Hi, I am using some of Telerik's other products such as ASP.NET for AJAX, Reporting, etc.  We are looking into possibly using sitefinity for a cms site.  However, we have a question - Does sitefinity allow for users to check out and check in files.  For example, if I upload a file (word, pdf, etc.), can another user check it out, edit it, then check it back in?  It looks like it can be modified, but we can't tell if it can be locked to a specific user while that user is editing/modifying it.

    Thanks!
  2. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hi GP,

    Sitefinity does not support tracking of changes that has been made to any files. You can use Subversion, CVS or other appropriate third party software for your needs. There is built in functionality that shows who has modified/published/edited given page or content item. We also support workflow and versioning ( you can restore or rollback an item to a certain version). You can see the workdlow and versioning in action at our demo website
    http://demo.sitefinity.com/Home.aspx

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  3. GP
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    Confoodled...and I apologize ahead of time for being obtuse...I just keep seeing conflicting answers.

    This forum discussion offers a cms comparison: http://www.sitefinity.com/support/forums/sitefinity-3-x/suggestions/sharepoint-vs-sitefinity.aspx

    However, it's giving me a conflicting answer to what you gave.  According to this comparison, sitefinity DOES offer a document management system. 

    How do you define document tracking as you use it in the answer above?

    What is the document management system in sitefinity called?

    Is it like or similar to microsoft sharepoint's document management?  With sharepoint, a user can click on a document within the document management system, and perform a "check out" which locks the document to that user.  No one else can edit that document until the user "checks in" the document.

    This website explains in better detail what I mean by checking in and out files: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA101314791033.aspx

    When I say document, I don't mean the website or webcontent itself.  I'm talking about files, such as word documents, excel spreadsheets, etc., that are stored and accessible via a file/document management system.

    Can sitefinity do this?  If not, is that a plan for the future?

    Thanks!
  4. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hi GP,

    There is no such functionality in Sitefinity 3.x versions. As I said in the previous reply "Sitefinity does not support tracking of changes that has been made to any files."  In Sitefinity you are not able to maintain versions of files or items  or using something like Business Document Workflow.

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  5. MB
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    I’m just starting to research this at the moment, as I have a customer who wants to provide Document Management services to specific groups of their website users.

     

    It appears to me that one possible approach to this could be to use MOSS (Microsoft Office SharePoint Server) for the Document Management side, and then write a SharePoint-Connector provider for the Sitefinity library module, to publish MOSS documents from Sitefinity libraries.

    At first glance it looks a bit full on, but I’m sure it must be easier than it looks... or at least I hope so. I know that Kentico has a SharePoint Connector, that allows the Kentico website to publish MOSS content.

     

    Of course, this is not an “integrated” solution, in that Sitefinity doesn’t directly provide the Document Management, but you can probably style the MOSS pages to match the website, and reference them from Sitefinity as secured external pages, so that it at least “appears” to be an integrated solution.


    Windows SharePoint Services is another possibility, but my knowledge on this is sketchy, at best.


    However... I suspect much more research to do yet.

  6. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hello MB,

    We made some MOSS connectors for 4.0. Images and Documents module will be included as well.

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  7. MB
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    Hi Ivan,

     

    Snap...

     

    Of course, the really interesting stuff here is SharePoint Foundation 2010 (replacement for WSS-3.0) and what you may be able to do with the new Client Object Model.

     

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee535895(office.14).aspx

     

    I saw the webcast of using Telerik Silverlight controls using the 2010 Client Objects, but the potential to build a custom (ajaxified) management interface and API, using the 2010 Client Objects, is intriguing.

     

    Of course, I’m way *WAY* out of my depth at the moment, but a cursory inspection of the object model appears to turn up all the properties and method required to construct such a management interface to the SF-2010 “Engine” (which I believe is free) - I even stumbled across File.CheckIn() and File.CheckOut() - but that’s a long, long way from implementing document management functionality into a Sitefinity website.

  8. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hi MB,

    We will have only synchronization with MOSS. CheckIn(), CheckOut() will not be supported at the beginning. The connector will only import images and documents to Sitefinity's library. It will be similar as what Amazon and Viddler provider functionality in 3.7 versions. Generally we will perform dynamic data syncronization with option for Type changing through native services rather then some complex operations.

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  9. MB
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    Hi Ivan,

     

    Yes, I assumed that was the case, and was more thinking about the potential for developing my own Sitefinity custom module and set of Sitefinity custom controls, using a Sitefinity connector-provider, and the Client Objects for SF-2010, to provide a simple front-end for selected parts of SF-2010... such as Document Management.

     

    A connector-provider for Sitefinity libraries will provide an easy way to publish document content from MOSS (and presumably SF-2010) and I could always use the standard (albeit, styled) MOSS front-end for document management... but I can see that the potential is there to go further with it, if my customer requires a more “integrated” solution.

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