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Installation "seemed" to go ok... but no default.aspx page

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  1. martin
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    Hello,

    I seem to have been posting questions here quite a lot over the last few day... so perhaps it should be "hello again".

    I have been previously learning how to use Sitefinity via a trial version of 3.5 a colleague of mine installed on a small Windows server of theirs.

    Since then, I've wanted to install Sitefinity (equally the trial version) on my local Vista PC, so I could try to master the ability to convert HTML and CSS files into .master files to import into Sitefinity. I've downloaded the 3.6 installer and run the installation. All "seemed" to go well... I didn't see any error messages. The Sitefinity app seems to be there and I can run it from the Start button.

    My browser opens and points towards http://localhost/telerik/Sitefinity3.6 but goes no further. I've manually added /Default.aspx to the address, but I still get nothing but a blank empty white browser window.

    Any idea what's going on???

    Regards,
    m.
  2. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hello martin,

    Could you check whether IIS is running and there is a telerik directory under Default Website? You can try to run the project from there by clicking browse.
    Generally, the link you have hit should load the project manager( or the Blank project)

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  3. martin
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    Hello again Ivan, I know you've helped out before.

    Can I please ask you to treat me like a real novice at all this... because I am.

    (A) is IIS something not naturally built into a box standard version of Vista - which therefore I might not have installed?

    (B) is there anything else Sitefinity needs which it doesn't install itself (and isn't part of your standard Vista computer setup)?

    (C) how exactly stage-by-stage, blow-by-blow would I go about checking whether ISS is running.

    Regards,
    m.
  4. Gabe Sumner
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    Hi Martin,

    Sitefinity should work fine without a physical "default.aspx" file.  You just need to create a page inside Sitefinity and set this page as the Home Page.  Everything should then click into place.

    I'm exploring the "Installing Sitefinity" topic on my blog this week:

    Welcome to Sitefinity, Please Watch your Step
    Installing Sitefinity using Blank Project

    Let me know if this isn't helpful and I'll try to write more on this subject.

    Gabe Sumner
    http://www.sitefinitywatch.com/
  5. martin
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    Hi,

    Thanks for the response Gabe. I've read through your two links... but I'm still struggling to get to grips with what I'm doing. It's almost like I really need an "idiots guide" to ASP.NET.

    You mention "You just need to create a page inside Sitefinity and set this page as the Home Page.  Everything should then click into place."... but I don't seem to be cottoning on as to exactly how I'd create a page inside Sitefinity - when I don't know how to get inside Sitefinity (when the expected app Admin interface appears to be missing)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is so frustrating... especially when the Sitefinity installer claims everything was completed sucessfully.

    I tried uninstalling Sitefinity and reinstalling it after installing "microsoft visual basic 2008 express" (since it seems I would need to buy the non-express version. No difference.

    Regards,
    m.
  6. Gabe Sumner
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    (A) is IIS something not naturally built into a box standard version of Vista - which therefore I might not have installed?

    Possibly.

    (B) is there anything else Sitefinity needs which it doesn't install itself (and isn't part of your standard Vista computer setup)?

    A database server.  You can use Sql Express if you don't have anything else available:

    http://www.microsoft.com/Sqlserver/2005/en/us/express.aspx

    In addition, you need the .NET framework installed:

    http://www.asp.net/downloads/essential/

    (C) how exactly stage-by-stage, blow-by-blow would I go about checking whether ISS is running.

    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/how-to-install-iis-on-windows-vista/

    If Internet Information Services is already checked, then IIS is already installed.  :)

    Gabe Sumner
    http://www.sitefinitywatch.com/
  7. martin
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    Hi Gabe,

    Thanks for the further info. :)

    (A) Right... IIS must be there, I can go to http://localhost and see that version 7 welcome screen.

    (Bi) .NET framework now installed (I think it might have already been there, as the installer wanted to reset or uninstall... so I picked reset).

    (Bii) I tried installing SQL Express late last night (UK time) and it came up with an unknown error and the installer quit itself. It had obviously got so far into the job as when I tried again this morning I got to the point "Instance Configuration" and it produced the error about - "the instance name (SQLExpress) is already in use"... "the instance ID MSSQL10.SQLEpress is already in use".

    I looked in the Program files and found a folder (created yesterday) which was SQL Express labelled. I uninstalled any files I could find named SQL Express and then reran the installer. It took a long time, but appeared to be sucessful.

    (C) I've rebooted the PC as instructed and can still see the http://localhost "welcome" page - http://localhost/telerik/Sitefinity3.6/Default.aspx still comes up blank. So I've still no idea whether Sitefinity's working or not. :(

    I'm running with the assumption that Default.aspx should be that very first Sitefinity Admin page, where I have the ability to create my first "test" project.

    Regards,
    m.
  8. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hello martin,

    When you load http://localhost/telerik/Sitefinity3.6/ you should see the default page - Default.aspx that is located under C:\Program Files\telerik\Sitefinity3.6\ProjectManager. Check whether there are files under ProjectManager folder. You could also try to run your project from using Sitefinity_3_6_1870_standard_NET20_BlankProject.zip or Sitefinity_3_6_1870_standard_BlankProject.zip

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  9. martin
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    Hello (again),

    I'm still trying to get Sitefinity to run on my Vista laptop.

    I know IIS is running (browsing to localhost brings up the IIS welcome window) and I've installed all that Gabe suggested.

    I "think" I know what the problem is... I'm using Vista Home Premium.

    When trying to follow the "installing on Vista" instructions from the Sitefinity manual... I've noticed one option (that I'm meant to check/tick) isn't there. Specifically "Worldwide Web Services">"Security">"Windows Authentication".

    I've done a quick google and I see quite a few web developers making angry noises that their purchase of the Home version of Vista is missing that option and thus causing them grief.

    I am rather annoyed that it seems one little checkbox within the OS's root can mean Sitefinity won't work (although everything I've been asked to install has installed seemingly error free).

    Can I get clarification if this "Windows Authentication" setting is NEEDED for Sitefinity to run?

    Regards,
    Martin.
  10. Dido
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    Hello martin,

    I tested it with my Vista by turning this option off.

    Sitefinity does NOT need this option (aside from the project manager).

    How to get up a blank project up and running:
    1. Download the blank project archive and extract in your <Sitefinity_Install_Dir>/WebSites/<YourSIteName>
    2. Hold down the windows key (the one with the windows logo on it) and press R. In the dialog box type "inetmgr" (without quotation marks) and hit enter. You might need admin credentials for this.
    3. Navigate to the Default Web Site from Connections/Sites. Right click the Default Web Site and choose Add application. Change the application pool to Classic, choose the virtual name for your site and, finally, select the physical path of your project
    4. While still in the IIS manager, under Default Web Site, choose the just created web site and click Browse *:80 (http) under Actions/Manage Application
    5. Set up your project
    6. Login in the newly created web site

    If you do not use the project manager, you will not need Windows Authentication, as Sitefinity itself does not need it. It is necessary for set-up tasks, such as creating a virtual directory, but you can do this manually.

    I hope this solves your problem. If you have any more problems or questions, please ask.

    Sincerely yours,
    Dido
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  11. martin
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    Hi,

    Thanks for the further assistance.

    Got as far as "Hold down the windows key (the one with the windows logo on it) and press R. In the dialog box type "inetmgr" (without quotation marks) and hit enter. You might need admin credentials for this." and come up against a problem.

    After typing in inetmgr I got a popup error window saying "Windows cannot find 'inetmgr'. Make sure you typed the name correctly and then try again".

    m.
  12. Dido
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    Hello martin,

    This is very strange, indeed. "inetmgr" is the internal shortcut for IIS Manager (actually, the name of the executable, as opposed to "appwiz.cpl" which requires rundll to work). Not finding it could mean that you haven't installed IIS at all.

    Installing IIS under Vista Home Premium is described here.

    If for some reason the search (run) box does not work, you can alternatively start IIS Manager via Control Panel->Administrative tools->Internet Information Services (IIS) Manager. Then follow the exact same steps.

    Without IIS, you will probably need some luck with apache + mod_mono + sitefinity compiled for .net 2.0. This is not supported, but with some luck it might just work.

    I hope this will help you. If you need further assistance, contact us.

    Regards,
    Dido
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