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4.0 release as Web Application Project

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  1. James Reategui
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    It would be great if 4.0 was released as a web application project instead of as a web site project. Or at least as an optional download / install.

    Currently, every time there is a new SF release we need to convert it to a web app.

    thanks


  2. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hi James,

    Thank you for using our services.

    We will consider the possibility to release a separate download of Sitefinity as web application for 4.0. Currently we could not support Sitefinity as web application.

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    Ivan Dimitrov
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  3. michael
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    James,

    What's the benefit of a web application project over a web site project? Asking because I don't know. 

    Thanks, Mike
  4. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hi michael,

    You can take a look at the following urls

    Web Site vs Web Application
    Web Application Projects and Web Deployment Projects are here

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  5. James Reategui
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    Thanks Ivan for posting the links. They sum it up pretty well.

    In general, using a Web App project with SF will make your life easier if you are doing a lot of custom development, Ie building your own providers and custom modules. MS never intended web site project's for enterprise level work. The only thing is you have to add the Profilebuilder to SF since it is not built in to the web apps. There is another post in the forums that explain step by step converting SF to web app project; pretty easy.

    James
  6. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hello James,

    Yes, you can convert your Sitefinity website to a web application. I also have a project converted to a web application.

    We are considering an web application release, but it will not be earlier that 4.0 release. Currently, we could not support Sitefinity  as web application.

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  7. Andrew
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    Please add my support for this suggestion! As a developer I'm used to working with web application projects for many years. Sitefinity is my first experience of a web site project and find it a bit clumsy (and very slow).

     

    Regards

    Andrew

     

  8. derek
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    Might make references from our external projects that tap into to Telerik DLLs easier on upgrade of Sitefinty DLLs as they could be auto update Solution relative Project references instead of direct path references to the Sitefinity BIN.

    Bren
  9. Shawn Krivjansky
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    Has there been any definite information about releaseing Sitefinity 4.0 as an optional "Web Application Project" instead of "Web Site" ?  I understand it has been talked about and desired by many, but since the Alphas and Betas are here, has there been any confirmed information??

    As a followup, if there will be a "Web Application Project" option for 4.0, will that be confined to C# projects only?  Any plans for a VB Web Application Project?  With "Web Site", that distinction wasn't that important as it was possible to mix languages within the "Web Site", but with "Web Application Projects", we won't be able to mix and mingle pages/code behind and so forth.

    I know it is possible to convert the current version from Web Site to WAP and I'm sure that would be true of the future version as well, but flipping languages is what I am most concerned about.
  10. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hi Shawn Krivjansky,

    Our current plans are to ship Sitefinity as Web Application with version 4.0. The ASP.NET code is written in C#.
    Each website can be converted to web application. For more detailed information, please take a look at


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  11. Shawn Krivjansky
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    That is great news that it will ship (at least as an option) as a "Web Application Project". 

    Your comment about "the ASP.NET code written in C#"... 
    Does that imply that VB shops (developers who want to use a VB Web Application Project) are out of luck??
    If there are physical pages/user controls in C# (similar to the 3.7 version), that would mean that VB developers wouldn't be able to take advantage of the 4.0 Web Application Project.  That is of course unless they converted the entire application (including non-DLL related Sitefinity things) from C# to VB... which would be a bit of a nightmare (doing it once I guess could be done, but the ongoing upgrade/releases being implemented would quickly get out of control.)

    Basically, the companies that I have are standard on VB.  We know and prefer it.  We also highly prefer working with Web Application Projects (for various reasons including source control, builds, etc...)  If we had to work with a C# Web Application Project, it wouldn't allow us to use our library of UserControls (not custom controls) written in VB.

    From the tidbits of information that we have heard about 4.0, it seemed like the "Sitefinity" pieces (for the project) were going to be streamlined quite a bit.  That would lead me to think there could be a possibility that it wouldn't be impossible to offer a C# AND VB project type for shipment.  Again, anybody could convert the project from one language to the other, but the maintenance on releases pose the biggest problem...which would seem like it would be most easily solved at the source with Sitefinity providing those two types of projects to not alienate half the people using the product.

    If this isn't in the works yet, could you get it fast tracked to make us VB guys happy? :-)
    Thanks!
  12. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hello Shawn Krivjansky,

    We will not ship code in VB. All templates and controls will be embedded into dlls, so you can write your custom code in VB and modify some templates using VB, We will also use lots of js and web service, so most of the things will be executed on the client.

    Best wishes,
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