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Telerik Admin, 9/21/2007 8:54:59 AM

Dear all, Sitefinity v3.1 Beta is now available for download from your Client.net account.

New features and enhancements:

- Forums module
- Tags and categories for Generic Content, Blogs and News modules
- New section in Administration: Search and RSS Services
- Predefined web site templates you can choose from when creating a new project
- Support for Multiple Membership providers
- Friendly editors for toolbox controls: Image, NewsList, PostList, Lists
- New page edit mode
- Improved design time support
- UI and documentation improvements
- Bug fixes

Known issues:

- Search can index web pages only. Search for dynamic content (Blogs and News) will be added for
   the official release.
- RSS is implemented for Blogs only. You can find information on how to add your own channel
   providers in the Developer Manual.
- When Multilingual is enabled, the issue with creating the first content item in a language different
   from the default still exists.
- Problem with public users login controls which perform redirection. They redirect to the
cmsentrypoint.
- Overlay page edit mode does not work smoothly. Switching between Classic and Overlay edit
   modes requires page refresh.
- Issue with publishing on TIU sample site.

We would highly appreciate your feedback and suggestions.

Yours truly,
The Telerik team

mexner, 9/21/2007 12:27:38 PM

Hello,

I've downloaded and installed the new Beta, thanks for all the great work. However, in reference to this post, where is the new user functionality? I don't see any improvements for the public user interface.

For example,

Improved support for Active Directory.
Support for multiple Membership, Role and Profile providers. This feature allows you to completely separate public and administrative users and manage them form one UI. Also, you can combine different providers like Active Directory and SQL.
Built-in control for displaying and editing user profiles.
New restriction has been added. Users that are not members of at least one unrestricted role will not be able to add or remove users from unrestricted roles even if they have been granted Manage Users permission.

is this available in the Beta?
Thanks,

Gabe Sumner, 9/21/2007 7:19:25 PM

I only gave it a quick look, but it looks great! I definetly like some of the enhancements! Kudos to the team for reaching this milestone.

Gabe
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Seth Cleaver, 9/22/2007 5:57:10 PM

Hey guys,

I have played with it a fair and I love it! Some major enhancements which are nice.

Tell me - there looks like there is now an "archived" status for pages... is this like an "unpublish"? Couldn't find how you set a page to archived though.

There a few major bugs which I couldn't get around to play fully (submitted them to you) but all in all can't wait for the release version.

Cheers,

Seth

Sean, 9/23/2007 7:07:59 AM

Hi guys,

Great work with the new version some of the new features are looking very nice! I especially like the page edit, much clearer where they are meant to be editing!

Where would you like us to post bugs and comments about the beta?

Cheers
Sean

Nitin, 9/23/2007 10:52:52 PM

Hi.

Is there a place I can still download v3.0 documentation? v3.1 is still in beta but documentation link lists documents for v3.1 only.

Also, I downloaded the .chm file for documentation but received error - "unavailable link" error when trying to navigate to any topic there.

Thanks!

Nitin

, 9/24/2007 4:05:37 AM

Hi Nitin,

Below the documentation section for downloading of "Sitefinity 3.1 beta",  there is another section with the title "Note:". You can find intsructions there on how to set up the properties of the CHM file so that to be able to view all topics in the Developer Manual. Please, follow them and let us know if you still have problems viewing the manual.

Hi Sean,

Thank you for the positive evaluation of the beta release of Sitefinity 3.1. Your feedback would be very helpful, so if there is anything you would like to report or suggest, please write in the "Bugs and Issues" category of Forums, in the thread: Sitefinity 3.1 beta: Bugs & Issues  .

Hi Seth,

The "Archived" status was available in the previous version as well, but it was not yet fully implemented. This is still valid. We do not have a planned version for which to fully implement that functionality. Please excuse us for the inconvenience.

All the best,
Sonya
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, 9/24/2007 7:08:51 AM

Hi Chris,

Sorry for the delay, we missed your questions the first time. The link to the forum post you sent is http:/// , for some reason it's messed up. About the questions you ask:

1. We provide our implementation of System.Web.Security.ActiveDirectoryMembershipProvider - Telerik.Security.ActiveDirectory.TelerikADMembershipProvider, as well as role provider for Active Directory that maps Windows security groups to Sitefinity roles. Dealing with Active Directory in 3.1 now is reduced to just declaring these providers in the web.config.

2. You can define several membership and role providers in the web.config. Then you should see a dropdown in the Administration -> Users tab and should be able to change the membership/role providers. Note that the membership and role provider names should be the same (by default both names are "Sitefinity").

Unfortunately, we forgot to include this dropdown in the beta.
This is what we will do for the release: in Sitefinity/Admin/CmsAdmin/Users.aspx, at the very bottom of the file add this declaration:

    <asp:DropDownList ID="ProvidersList" runat="server" AutoPostBack="true" /> 

  </LayoutTemplate> 

</cc1:UsersCommands> 
...

3. The built-in control for profile is Telerik.Security.WebControls.ManageProfile. Sorry but it is not yet mentioned in the documentation and it is not added to the toolbox. You can add it manually till the official release (see the User Manual for registering custom controls in the toolbox).

4. This has already been done. When a user who does not have unrestricted rights manages users, he/she does not see the unrestricted roles, so he/she cannot add/remove users to unrestricted roles.

There is some initial information in the Developers Manual (Security section) about 1. and 2. and we will be very happy if we receive some feedback on what to improve.

Thank you for those questions, they really helped to clear some things up.

All the best,
Yasen
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mexner, 9/24/2007 10:55:19 AM

Thanks Yasen. Your responses really helped!

I will review the developers manual and do my best to provide constructive feedback. You all have been doing a great job.

One follow up question - I'm using the beta on a live site and the users are complaining of a page appearing every 10 clicks or so,

“You’re using the trial version of Site Finity 3.1. To continue this evaluation click here”

Is their any way to get rid of this?

Thanks so much,
Chris

mexner, 9/24/2007 10:56:22 AM

Ops, one more question - is the final release still scheduled for the end of this month?
Thanks,

, 9/25/2007 2:11:21 AM

Hi CHRIS mechsner,

We thought it would be unusual to use the beta version in production and this is why we did not provide a way to generate license keys for it.
The official release should be out by the end of next week at the latest, so if you can't wait until then, please let us know and we'll generate a key for you.

Sincerely yours,
Rebecca
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Rik Theunis, 9/25/2007 11:11:32 AM

Hi,

I have observed the following in 3.1 Beta:

If any content is placed between opening and closing tags of a contentplaceholder in a masterpage like this:

<asp:contentplaceholder ID="Left_Column_Content" runat="server">x</asp:contentplaceholder>

including line breaks and spaces, controls cannot be dropped onto that contentplaceholder.

, 9/26/2007 5:33:06 AM

Hello Rik,

This is a known issue. We are investigating the problem.

Best wishes,
Pepi
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Josef Rogovsky, 9/28/2007 12:29:28 PM

Can the 3.1 beta be installed on the same machine as 3.0 or does the installer force an upgrade?

, 9/28/2007 1:13:54 PM

Yes, Josef, version 3.1 beta can be installed on the same machine. You don't need to uninstall the previous versions.

All the best,
Rebecca
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Seth Cleaver, 9/28/2007 5:22:09 PM

Hi guys,

Do you know if the problem with writing to and from profiles is fixed in 3.1?

I am still having problems with SP2 with the updated DataAccess file that you sent to me to allow me to overcome the problem below. Basically I can now save data to the profile but for some reason I can't pull the xml out of their without errors... my code works fine with the standard asp.net membership provider but using it with the Telerik one breaks:

Hi Seth,

Thanks a lot for pointing out this issue. The right table for saving profile fields is telerik_UserMetaInfo and the max length of Text column is 250 characters. We will remove this limitation for the next release.

Your Telerik points are updated.

Kind regards,
Pepi
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Ben Alexandra, 9/29/2007 6:55:17 PM

Hi,

Just curious when the official 3.1 release will be. I remember reading it was scheduled for the 28th, but might be a few days late. Any update would be great.

Thanks, guys

Ben

, 10/2/2007 2:34:11 AM

Hi Ben Alexandra,

We are doing our best to release version 3.1 by the end of this week.

Sincerely yours,
Rebecca
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YB, 10/2/2007 3:31:01 PM

Hi,

We have a Version3.0 + sp2 installed with a Sql server 2005 for content database. I wonder if this database compatiable with that of Version3.1?

Thanks.

Yuanbin

, 10/3/2007 2:29:36 AM

Hi Yuanbin,

About the database: yes, the database of sp2 is compatible with that of version 3.1. Sitefinity makes its upgrade automatically when the application is started for the first time. Also, we recommend you to back up your old project and database before starting the migration to the new version.

In order to upgrade your existing project to Sitefinity 3.1, you should follow these steps:

1. Install Sitefinity 3.1
2. Create a new project
3. Click Go to administer the project
4. Copy all custom files from your old project to the new project. These include user controls, scripts, images, .CSS     files, .DLL files, etc.
5. If you have made any modifications in your old project Admin folder and web.config file, add those to the new     project
6. Copy your old project .master files to the new project App_Master folder.
7. In each .master file, remove the obsolete <div class="cmsWrapper"> tag that was required in versions prior to 3.1.
    A form adapter is now used, so you must also replace the <sf1:CmsForm> tag with the standard <form> tag .

Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Pepi
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YB, 10/3/2007 6:04:49 PM

Hi,

After I create Search Index, it always says

What to index?

PageIndex

FireIndexEventOnPagePublished : True
IndexNonPublicPages : True
StartingNodeUrl : ~/home.aspx

Index status

Indexed words: 0
Spidered pages: 200
Last indexing date: 03 Oct 2007, 04:54

What's the problem?

Thanks

Yuanbin

, 10/4/2007 4:29:25 AM

Hi Yuanbin,

If I understand correctly, you mean that re-indexing doesn't start automatically every time a page is published. If this is the case, this is a known issue in Sitefinity 3.1 Beta. It will be fixed for the official release. For now, you should force indexing for a given page manually by clicking "Start indexing" button.

Don't hesitate to contact us if there is any misunderstanding.

Greetings,
Pepi
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YB, 10/4/2007 10:27:30 AM

Thanks Pepi,

This happens after I click "Starting indexing". It crawl 200 pages but without indexed word

Thanks

Yuanbin

, 10/5/2007 4:36:51 AM

Hello Yuanbin,

Unfortunately, we can't reproduce the described behavior locally. There are some fixes and improvements in the Searchservice. So I would suggest you check if the problem still persists after the upgrade to version 3.1
Also, it would be best if you could give us details for the steps you undertook before encountering this and tell us if you
have you specified the search pattern and what pages are you indexing (external, normal, group).

Sorry for not being able to help you immediately and thanks for your cooperation in advance.

Greetings,
Pepi
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