Will there be 4.1 Hotfix? (not just an internal build) Cancel

1. Ibrahim Mehdi

   

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   06 May 2011

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   As they say no news is bad news, so I'd rather have a non supported internal build that I can test myself, rather that wait until the supported version.  I'm able to communicate with my clients the status of the issues that concern the project proggress, and trust me they do prefer to get some timely info rather than wonder what's going on. 
   Robert, I  was also experiencing exactly the same issues with some adult content in my Blogs that I wanted hidden for certain users. I installed the internal build form 2 May on my test machine and voila! - it worked. Only had to restart the application pool in IIS once after setting the permissions.
2. Luke

   

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   08 May 2011

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   As I'm going through this discussion, I think Telerik should consider establishing some regular hotfix release schedule. The main CMS we are using along with Sitefinity 3.7 is Kentico CMS and they, for example, provide 7-day bug fixing guarantee that works extremely well for us. What are your thoughts?
3. Bostjan

   

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   I fully agree with Jean.

   Can you please produce a version that you can actually use or give back 3.7.

   If there are problems with navigation widgets (order, sibling pages in vertical menu and so on….)  if there are missing features that where so well done in sitefinity 3.7, if most of core functionalities of basic CMS are not working,  How can you expect that now suddenly you can start new projects with this half-done product.

    Give back possibility to purchase 3.7 licenses until next year so we can at least get new clients and start delivering project properly.
4. Markus

   

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   @Telerik
   
   Is the 18th still the target date? Earlier is better but I need to know if a of now the 18th still looks good for the 4.1 SP1
   
   Markus
5. Kalina

   

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   10 May 2011

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   Hello Markus and all,
   
   Service Pack which will cover the critical upgrade problems is planned until the end of this week because of popular request. Please follow the announcement on our web site and forum for more details.
   
   Kind regards,
   Kalina
   the Telerik team

   Do you want to have your say in the Sitefinity development roadmap? Do you want to know when a feature you requested is added or when a bug fixed? Explore the Telerik Public Issue Tracking system and vote to affect the priority of the items
6. RobertZ121

   

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   Kalina,
   
   you are kidding? What means "popular request" .... we are waiting since months for the solution! - And where at your website or forum can we find more details? Please make it clear that we can understand what you mean.
   
   Robert
7. Kalina

   

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   Hi Robert,
   
   I am sorry for not being extensive enough in my previous reply.
   
   The Release will be announced:

   • In sections News (RSS), Announcements,and Release Notes (RSS) on our web site
   • In our Forum General Discussions (RSS)

   We will be using other channels as well such as Twitter and Facebook.
   I hope this is of help. Let me know if you have other questions.
   
   Greetings,

   Kalina
   

   the Telerik team

   Do you want to have your say in the Sitefinity development roadmap? Do you want to know when a feature you requested is added or when a bug fixed? Explore the Telerik Public Issue Tracking system and vote to affect the priority of the items
8. Tonya

   

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   10 May 2011

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   We gave up last week and decided to code our site from scratch ourselves. I wasted the better part of a month's programmer time goofing around with Sitefinity 4.0 with it's bugs, then SP1, all the while hoping that 4.1 would fix the situation. They our 4.1 upgrade took a site working in 4.0 and broke it. So, we tried to start from scratch with a 4.1 install. More issues there. Couldn't put the pages in the order we wanted. Templates randomly stopped working and had to be reapplied. 
   
   Even if we could have gotten it "working", I would never have had the confidence to run our production site with it and ever install any sort of upgrade. I couldn't wait six weeks each time for the next supposed "savior" build that had it's own new bugs.
   
   Like I said, a whole month down the drain. We're about a week in to writing the site ourselves and have made lots of actual progress. I just submitted a support ticket requesting a refund for our 4.0 license that was never and will never be used. I hope for the Sitefinity team's sake that they can stabilize this product, as it does have lots of nice features. I just couldn't wait any longer.
9. Markus

   

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   @Kalina
   
   I understand Roberts frustration. I have postponed a project from January till April because of missing features.
   
   After waiting 4 month we get a CMS that some would call a bannana CMS. As you know bananas a picked when green and will be riping on the way to the client. Me for one shure hope the SP1 will turn the bannan finaly yellow.
   
   I am usually behind Telerik all the way, but calling an hotfix that makes a CMS in its core funtions (reordering pages, renaming page groups, workflow issues) work, beeing called a 'popular request' simply feels like gettins slapped in the face with a wet towel.
   
   I simply hope the SP1 will be on time and introducing more features then bugs.
   
   At the moment the CMS 4.1 out of the box can not be sold, shown to clients. Warnings that are not needed, errors that force me to end a IE with the task manager are just some issues.
   
   Dear Kalina
   At the moment Teleriks Sitefinity does not have to many bonus points with us - so you might think twice about what you write.
   
   Markus
   
   
10. RobertZ121

    

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    @Markus,
    
    thanx for sharing bad feelings of all developers. -  I have been a fan of Telerik since years and love their ASP.NET AJAX rad tools. The hope was that Sitefinity could be an umbrella to carry all Telerik components as excellent user controls. - So, five stars for "mother" Telerik but hope that management of "daughter" Sitefinity is fired soon and replaced because of that poor implementation beyond 3.7 - since half a year with no view of satisfying real customers needs.
    
    Robert
    
    
11. Markus

    

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    @Robert
    
    Sitefinity 3.7 was simply the only CMS I could recomend to users. Afordable, fast, very easy to use.
    
    Since 3.7 no longer exists I have all my money on 4.x. There are no other CMS around that I like better then 4.3.
    
    And I have big faith that telerik get SF right. I just wish that the managment understands at what point they are now.
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISti1x8ecxM&feature=related
    
    start watching at 2.20
    
    Markus
    
12. Steve

    

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    10 May 2011

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    I think it was just a translation issue, don't think she literally meant they reluctantly decided to release it because we voted on a PITS issue or something :)
    
    (I've ran into an issue like this before)