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Repeat all Language Versions if only one language is choosen message

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  1. Markus
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    Create a site
    Go to languages 
    Add German for example
    Make German default
    Remove English

    Create a page - Delete the page - Works correkt

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    Create a Page 1
    Create a Page 2

    Select the checkboxes in front of the Page 1 and Page 2
    Click Delete

    You will be prompted if you want to remove the German version only or all translations which is a bit confusing if you have only one language :-)

    Markus

    PS: Sorry Title should read Remove not Repeat. Admin can you change that?
  2. Pavel Benov
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    Hello Markus,

    This is an expected behaviour. When frontend and backend languages differ, your site will be multilingual. You need to set the backend language to be the same as the frontend (German for example) for your site to be monolingual. 

    Regards,
    Pavel Benov
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  3. Markus
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    Dear Pavel

    Short version: you got to be kidding

    Long version:

    This might be expected behavior from Teleriks developers.  Sorry but this sounds like it is expected to get an error when you have VB Code in C#.

    So what you tell me is for a enduser its clear that if he as a site with only ONE (1) front end language that when he deletes a single page he will just be asked if he wants to delete it but when he selects two pages (both the same single front end language) he will be prompt if he wants to delete all translations!!

    Where in fact there are no other translations. No matter how much this behavior is expected by you guys for every front end user its confusing. Some what not consistent.

    ----------
    Here comes another car analogy.

    You have a sports car with two (2) seats. Now you remove the driver seat and will be asked to you want to remove that seat.

    You have a sports car with two (2) seats. Now you remove the driver and passenger side seat and will be asked if you want to remove the passenger seats in the back as well (even though they don't exist).
    --

    Sorry LOL.

    You are right: I will just instruct my clients that if they don't want any confusing messages they should first switch the backend to the same language as the frontend. This would also have the benefit that the long standing annoyance that the backend language changes according to the frontent language of a page would not be happening any more.

    Markus

    PS: True multilingual means I can have different front end, backend, files, images but they do not interfere with each other. If I set my backend to english I want it english in all pages I edit not only in the english once and have french in french front-end language pages.



  4. Pavel Benov
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    Hi Markus,

    You have made some good points there, so i have logged this intro our system for fixing. You can follow the progress in our PITS as well as vote to increase its popularity. Your Telerik points have been modified accordingly. 

    Regards,
    Pavel Benov
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  5. Markus
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    Dear Pavel

    Thanks for opening a PITS for this. I don't really expect to see this fixed anytime soon. The bug that the backend changes the language according to front end pages never made it to PITS and was not adressed in the last 8 month either

    More confusing stuff never made it to PITS and has not been addressed. 

    http://www.sitefinity.com/devnet/forums/sitefinity/bugs-issues/translation-changes-backend-language-on-pages.aspx 

    Sept 11 Lubomir - Definitely not a feature
    Nov 11 Lubomir - bug is logged in bugracking and has quite a high priority
    Nov 11 Georgi - If we cant fix in 4,4 we definitely include in 4.4 SP1
    Jan 12 Georig - Bug has only 3 votes (different bug then the problem really is)

  6. Markus
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    In 5.3 if you select one page in a monolingual site it sais correct. Delete cancel

    If you select multiple pages it still asks you if you want to delete current language or all languages. What is the clients suppost to think if he has one language only and is asked if he want's to delete all languages.

    Anyone a Telerik cares about this?

    Markus
  7. Stefani Tacheva
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    Hi Markus,

    I have increased the severity of this bug and I have talked to one of our developers team. We will do our best to integrate the fix as soon as possible.

    Apologies for the inconvenience.

    Kind regards,
    Stefani Tacheva
    the Telerik team
  8. Markus
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    11 Mar 2013 in reply to Stefani Tacheva
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    Is there a PITS for this.

    Still think it is strange for customers to be aske if they want to delete all language versions in a one language site.

    Markus

  9. Stefani Tacheva
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    Hello Markus,

    Please find the PITS on the following URL. I will discuss this problem with our developers again.

    Kind regards,
    Stefani Tacheva
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