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  1. Andrew
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    Hi

    I would like to develop my client's website *and content* locally on my own PC, and when finished promote the content to the live version hosted with a shared hosting provider.

    It's unlikely the hosting company will let me install the Project Manager app on their server, so I won't be able to use the Sitefinity Tools > Export option will I? Am I right in saying the only way I can deploy the content is to copy the database in its entirety from my PC to the hosting provider MySql/SQL Server?

    (Deploying the web app files isn't an issue, and I'll just use FTP like I would for any normal website).

    Are there any plans to change/improve the Tools > Export option? It has the potential to be a useful (and simple) way of deploying content, for those of us who aren't confident in moving databases around.

    Thanks in advance
    Andy

  2. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hello Andrew,

    Due to the restrictions that most of the Shared hosting companies have you probably will not be able to use the Export option on their server. Since the process is moving from development to the production you can export the website on your local server and the migrate it to another.

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    Ivan Dimitrov
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  3. Andrew
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    Hi

    The physical files that make up the website are easy enough to transfer to the shared hosting environment, but I'm interested in finding a straightforward way to transfer site content without resorting to tools like Sql Server Mgt Studio or MySql.

    It would be nice if Sitefinity had content export & import admin options to simplify this process and avoid the need for knowledge of SSMS & MySql.  This could work in a similar way to how the current export feature creates XML files containing the site content. These would be uploaded via a new "import" option within Sitefinity (rather than "project manager"), then the database populated.

    Just a suggestion!

    Thanks again

    Andrew
  4. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hi Andrew,

    Currently we are working on new installation features. However we will consider your suggestion for the importing and exporting. The main problem that I can see here is that the updating the database uses an db owner and administrative permissions that are not granted by most of the shared hosting accounts.

    All the best,
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  5. Andrew
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    So how does the "project manager" app import the XML files into the database? Couldn't you add similar functionality to Sitefinity admin?

    I'm not necessarily saying the importer should construct the database as well - it would just be for data (content), which shouldn't require elevated db privileges.

    It must be a common scenario for web developers to create much of the content on their dev PC, then want to migrate that content to the production environment?

    Regards
    Andrew

  6. Georgi
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    Hi Andrew,

    The project manager is using the same APIs for creating a content. Let me give you an example with the Generic Content items:
    I can completely understand why you need this feature though - it is not very convenient to backup-restore your database all the time, or to develop xml parsers in order to push your data into production. That is why, we are working on Synchronization feature which will be available in the Administration of Sitefinity 4.0. This service will help you to move all of your items, files, images and documents and articles between your installations automatically. It will work for remote web sites as well.

    I hope you will like it.

    Best wishes,
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  7. Andrew
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    That's good news. I'll look forward to getting my hands on v4 !

    Thanks for your help
    Andrew
  8. Georgi
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    Hello Andrew,

    We will have a CTP available for download in 2 months probably. You could see what 4.0 will look like in the final version from it ;)

    Greetings,
    Georgi
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