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  1. helloS
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    Hi
    Has sf been tested on Azure yet?

    Thanks
  2. Georgi
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    Hello Machende,

    Azure is still not officially announced and Sitefinity is not tested to work with it yet.

    Best wishes,
    Georgi
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  3. bnye
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    Azure looks amazing. I still don't understand how the database services are going to work for this. However, the demo for deploying an asp.net website (without a database) looks pretty cool. This will be a great alternative to Amazon if it works with Sitefinity. Nikhil mentioned a partial trust environment, so it should work?

    Sincerely,

    Ben
  4. Georgi
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    Hello Ben,

    Thank you for the provided link. I think that we still some information before making brave announcements :). It looks very promising though!
    We will follow up once we have more information.

    Best wishes,
    Georgi
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  5. mattc
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    Hi All

    Been looking at Azure a bit as there has been a lot of movement at the moment since this thread.

    First up azure now supports full trust and integrated pipeline mode so looking good in terms of running SF in a web role..? Has anyone tried squeezing Sitefinity into a web role yet?

    Also with the release of SQL azure it looks as if we should be able to host the SF DB in the cloud too.
    The feature set of SQL azure is changing. I tried using this migration tool which helps you migrate an existing DB to the cloud and got some errors:

    "Deprecated feature 'More than two-part column name' is not supported in this version of SQL Server"

    I went through the script the tool generates and changed the notation. This just means removing the dbo. from the create stored procedures. This allowed me to create all the tables and SP's in Azure without problems :)

    However, when I fired up the Sitefinity and set it to use the Azure DB  I got the same error, so obviously the calls to the DB from Sitefinity are also using this naming notation?

    System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: Deprecated feature 'More than two-part column name' is not supported in this version of SQL Server.

    This seems very close to working! Can anyone see a way around it?

    Matt



  6. Georgi
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    Hello Mathew,

    Thank you very much for posting these details! We have updated your Telerik account for this with some points.

    Some details from our side - we believe that the dbo is added by the SQL server when the database objects are created. The ORM should not do such stuff. Have you deployed a locally created database to the clouds (it sounds amazing ;) )?

    Now that Azure supports full trust, could you please try to upload a blank project with no database set, create an empty database and make request to the project. This will launch the project wizard - specify the empty database and click on next. This should create the database objects having the database server in mind. Hopefully, we will not have the dbo in this case.

    If this works, then you could export the database objects and import them in the old project.

    We would be glad if you let us know about any results, if you have the free time to test this of course.
    Thank you once again!

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  7. mattc
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    Hi Georgi

    I created a blank SF project and pointed it at an empty DB in Azure, got the same error...
    I also uploaded the SP's and Tables to Azure manually (after changing the SQL to remove the names) and Azure accepted it fine. But when I tried to run a project against it I got the error in the screenshot attached, same again.

    If it helps, I've attached screenshots of the number of SP's and Tables the setup created in Azure before it failed..

    Little confused as I'm not sure exactly whats going on underneath. Nearly there though as Azure accepts the DB as it is :)

    Matt
  8. Georgi
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    Hello mattc,

    We are close indeed.
    We tried to override the default data providers, but found some issues. We will need some more time to investigate this. If we find a solution, we will include it in the upcoming service pack (which should be out pretty soon). 

    In any case, 4.0 will be Azure ready out of the box. 

    Kind regards,
    Georgi
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  9. mattc
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    Hi Georgi

    That sounds great, thanks for looking into it, def one for the future. Great to hear that SF will be azure capable in version 4 too, really looking forward to the beta. Does that mean the application and the DB will be Azure friendly?

    While I was thinking of Azure made me think. Both for my custom data used inside SF, and, as SFV4 will all be ORM, it would be awesome if ORM had a data provider for the the 2nd level cache using the .NET services bus. I checked that the bus supports multicast so this shouldn't be a problem?

    I think that then both ORM and SF would be very Azure friendly!! Just running it in Azure is one thing, but if you could really leverage the multi instance benefit that would be very cool!

    While I've got my head in the clouds (!) maybe a provider for memcached too (which MS seem to be pushing with a build to run on Azure)...? Strange they don't push their Velocity engine instead?

    Thanks for listening!

    Matt
  10. Georgi
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    Hello Matthew,

    Thank your for the follow up and the suggestions!

    The application and the database will be Azure ready indeed. We are using OpenAccess which supports 2nd level cache, and we are using it in the data provider. It is important to note though that this cache is not using the Bus Services. I am not sure if we will be able to provide this functionality and it depends pretty much of the future development of OpenAccess. 
    I want to mention one more thing - Sitefinity 4.0 can work without a database. We have implemented an entire XML Engine, and a data provider for it, so you could store the whole content in XML files. Sounds great, isn't it? It supports even 2nd level caching as well.
    As for the memcached provider, we are definitely going to think about it. Everything which can possibly bring a bit of performance is worth investigating. Talking about caches, databases and performance, the queries to the database (either real database or xml files..) could stay in the memory (buffered) and execute on certain intervals (configurable). This will greatly increase the performance.

    We will be glad to have any other suggestions from you. Thank you once again!

    Sincerely yours,
    Georgi
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  11. mattc
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    Hi Georgi

    WOW, lots of options, I like the periodic lookup and cache option!
    I posted on the ORM forum a suggestion for allowing the usage of the bus :)

    Very exciting about V4.
    One other thought, will there we a  storage provider to use Azure storage like the Amazon one for content?

    Regards

    Matt
  12. Georgi
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    Hi mattc,

    I can understand how you feel - we are that excited for the 4.0 release as well. We are closely working with the OpenAccess ORM, so we are going to use every feature that they provide.

    Thank you for your care. We are looking forward for any further suggestions :)

    All the best,
    Georgi
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  13. Jed Horovitz
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    Hi,

    Is Sitefinity v3 compatible with Azure at this point? If so, is there any limitations? Our team is currently evaluating CMS type systems and pretty much the entirety of our web presence is completely deployed out on Azure.

    We are very much interested in Sitefinity 4 but it appears that won't be released until the end of the year.
  14. Ivan Dimitrov
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    Hello Jed Horovitz,

    There are database initialization problems to run 3.7 version on Azure cloud, so it won't work properly. We have not preformed enough QA tests to say that we support 3.x versions on Azure. Hopefully, there is a new major version Sitefinity 4.0 which CTP was released a month ago. The CTP of Sitefinity 4.0 does not support Azure cloud. We will provide Azure cloud support for the BETA.

    Kind regards,
    Ivan Dimitrov
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  15. Long
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    Migrated Sitefinity with the new Azure Portal over the weekend, figured I document it in detail, here you go  http://blog.longle.net/2012/08/09/migrating-teleriks-sitefinity-cms-to-windows-azure/
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