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Multilingual Support for Media Files in Libraries

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  1. Kali
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    Hi all,

     For the next release, we will implement Multilingual Support for Media Files in Libraries, as requested on the feedback portal here.

    This will allow users to create multilingual media items (images, documents) and attach different files to the different language versions of those items.

     We are ready with version 1 of the prototypes and you can see them here:http://pmfsto.axshare.com/#p=specific_file_for_language_version

    Please, take a look at the screens and let us know:

    • Is there anything unclear ?
    • Do we cover what you have in mind with this feature?
    • How are you planning to use it - for images and for files.

    We look forward to receiving your feedback and comments.

    Best Regards,
    Kalina Maneva

  2. Richard Lee
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    16 Oct 2015 in reply to Kali
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    The multilingual also needs to support in News, Videos, Forms and List libraries (not just limited only in Images and Documents libraries). We need these missing functions in true multilingual sites.

    Thanks,

    Richard

     

  3. Steve
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    17 Oct 2015 in reply to Richard Lee
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    @Richard

      News, forms, lists, and frankly the rest of the CMS already does multilingual fine.

      The issue here is that you can't have a single Media content item (Image, Video, Doc), and localize it to different cultures.  Currently you need to literally make NEW content items....really screws with data relation.

  4. Antoaneta Tsaneva
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    Hey everyone, 

    We are still looking for feedback on the wireframes provided in Kali's post: http://pmfsto.axshare.com/#p=specific_file_for_language_version

    We are wondering what are the most used scenarios for multilingual media items? 

     - Do you always plan to have different image/file for each translation or you will reuse most of the images/files and will add a new file in some translations only?

     - From your perspective, is there any difference in the scenarios for Images and Files? 

    It would be great if you can also share a specific use case/scenario you have for multilingual media items. 

    Thanks a lot in advance,

    Antoaneta

  5. Richard Lee
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    Hi Steve,

    Yes, you are right.  I forget to double check. The missing functions are in Images, Videos and Documents & Files.

     Thanks,

     Richard

  6. Richard Lee
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    19 Oct 2015 in reply to Antoaneta Tsaneva
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    Hi Kali/Antoaneta, 

    For videos, documents & files, we do have different files for each translation.

    Depends on the images. we will reuse the images or have  different images for each translation. The alternative text will allow me to enter the specific language.

    The prototypes did cover most of the scenarios to support multilingual sites.

    Thanks,

    Richard

     

  7. Steve
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    @Antoaneta

    1) Same as multilingual content.  So like client needs a rotator, we make it with the module builder and allow them to use RelatedData to pick an image.  So then in that Image they should be able to define different images for the culture and it should change automatically based on that.  So in the one example the client had english text baked into the image, so in this case, they would need a second image to show in FR mode automatically without needing to link multiple images in.  We would also like a fallback (like the rest of the CMS) so if there is no FR translation defined, it just uses the EN one...

    2) No...you want to link content once and have the reliant "Media content" loaded for the locale if it is set.

    The only thing I would like you to think about is the "Use the file from other translation" part.   If the image is exactly the same I would not like SF to create a new "Copy" of the image, only when it's physically changed\replaced.  Like I dont want to have 1000 EN images, only 2 needing FR versions, but the CMS copying everything to give me 1998 identical files.

     

    Antoaneta Tsaneva said:

    Hey everyone, 

    We are still looking for feedback on the wireframes provided in Kali's post: http://pmfsto.axshare.com/#p=specific_file_for_language_version

    We are wondering what are the most used scenarios for multilingual media items? 

     - Do you always plan to have different image/file for each translation or you will reuse most of the images/files and will add a new file in some translations only?

     - From your perspective, is there any difference in the scenarios for Images and Files? 

    It would be great if you can also share a specific use case/scenario you have for multilingual media items. 

    Thanks a lot in advance,

    Antoaneta

  8. Kali
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    Hi all,

    We revised the screens to make them more user friendly. You can see the final result here:
    http://pmfsto.axshare.com/

    We decided to separate visually the two options: Replace file and Use another file for this language.Also, these are now displayed under an icon on a file level.

     

    Please review and let us know what you think.

    - Kalina

     

     

  9. Nidhi
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    Hi Kali,

    So just to clarify, if we create a translation for any media, and change the title/description etc but do not use the option "Use another file for [lang]".. then it will automatically fall back to the default media file?

  10. Richard Lee
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    Hi Kalina,

    Where is the  prototype for Images library? It was in version 1 of the prototypes.

    Thanks,

    Richard

  11. Kali
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    Hi Richard,

    you can see it on this link:

    http://pmfsto.axshare.com/#p=create_a_image_item_translation

    - Kalina

  12. Kali
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    Hi Nidhi,

    By default a new translation will automatically fallback to the first uploaded file under the item (on most occasions - it is in the default language).

    We didn't make the fall back to be to the default language version because the default language is per site and can change over time .

    Let me know if you have more questions.

    - Kalina

  13. Richard Lee
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    Hi Kali,

    Is there a 'Alternative text' field for the Image?  I still don't see the prototype in the Images library.  The prototype is only for Documents & Files library because of the text 'Back to Documents & Files'.

    Thanks,

    Richard

     

     

     

  14. Kali
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    Hi Richard,

    our designers did the prototypes for Documents and Files first and then  - for Images.

    They forgot to place Alternative Text but I confirm that there will be such.

    Other than that, the experience will be very similar and this is how an image editing will look:

    http://pmfsto.axshare.com/#p=create_a_image_item_translation

  15. Ryan
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    Kali,

    Is this still planned to be in the next release (I'm assuming that means 9.0)?

  16. Kali
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    Hi Ryan,

    Yes, this implementation is still on track for Sitefinity 9.0 due in March.

    Regards,

    - Kalina

  17. Backlink
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    good!!
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